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		<title>By: hadar</title>
		<link>http://www.opticality.com/blog/2007/03/02/spam-is-back-under-control/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>hadar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, this is cool too, thanks Gerry. I&#039;m not jumping over just yet, but I&#039;m going to think about it some, and possibly even throw in an experiment or two.

Conceptually, three things bother me about Gmail as my main email provider:

1) The (remote) possibility that I&#039;ll be hostage to Google at some point in the future, in some (as yet) unknown way. I know this sounds paranoid, but it has to cost them a bloody fortune to provide this service, and the day may come when they literally _have_ to monetize it, or make it go away...

2) I am amazed at how many people in the above posting claim zero false positives. It might be true, but it seemed absurd to me. In fact, my bet is that they just don&#039;t care about the &quot;few&quot; good mails that get tossed with the spam. For example, for a while, it seemed that nearly every mail sent from one of &quot;zope.com&quot; addresses was getting sent to spam on nearly _every_ gmail receiving account. So, somehow zope.com was on some blacklist, etc. Many of the recipients didn&#039;t notice, until we tracked them down...

3) I&#039;m fond of my domain. I know I can use my domain with Google, but IIUC, it costs money, and again, repeating point #1, that price might be reasonable today, but at some point, become less so, and it gets harder and harder to switch, etc.

Still, some of the ideas are pretty cool, and worth investigating. If I have any meaningful results to report in the future, I&#039;ll post them.

Thanks again Gerry! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, this is cool too, thanks Gerry. I&#8217;m not jumping over just yet, but I&#8217;m going to think about it some, and possibly even throw in an experiment or two.</p>
<p>Conceptually, three things bother me about Gmail as my main email provider:</p>
<p>1) The (remote) possibility that I&#8217;ll be hostage to Google at some point in the future, in some (as yet) unknown way. I know this sounds paranoid, but it has to cost them a bloody fortune to provide this service, and the day may come when they literally _have_ to monetize it, or make it go away&#8230;</p>
<p>2) I am amazed at how many people in the above posting claim zero false positives. It might be true, but it seemed absurd to me. In fact, my bet is that they just don&#8217;t care about the &#8220;few&#8221; good mails that get tossed with the spam. For example, for a while, it seemed that nearly every mail sent from one of &#8220;zope.com&#8221; addresses was getting sent to spam on nearly _every_ gmail receiving account. So, somehow zope.com was on some blacklist, etc. Many of the recipients didn&#8217;t notice, until we tracked them down&#8230;</p>
<p>3) I&#8217;m fond of my domain. I know I can use my domain with Google, but IIUC, it costs money, and again, repeating point #1, that price might be reasonable today, but at some point, become less so, and it gets harder and harder to switch, etc.</p>
<p>Still, some of the ideas are pretty cool, and worth investigating. If I have any meaningful results to report in the future, I&#8217;ll post them.</p>
<p>Thanks again Gerry! <img src='http://www.opticality.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hadar</title>
		<link>http://www.opticality.com/blog/2007/03/02/spam-is-back-under-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7363</link>
		<dc:creator>hadar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, this is cool too, thanks Gerry. I&#039;m not jumping over just yet, but I&#039;m going to think about it some, and possibly even throw in an experiment or two.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Conceptually, three things bother me about Gmail as my main email provider:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) The (remote) possibility that I&#039;ll be hostage to Google at some point in the future, in some (as yet) unknown way. I know this sounds paranoid, but it has to cost them a bloody fortune to provide this service, and the day may come when they literally _have_ to monetize it, or make it go away...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) I am amazed at how many people in the above posting claim zero false positives. It might be true, but it seemed absurd to me. In fact, my bet is that they just don&#039;t care about the &quot;few&quot; good mails that get tossed with the spam. For example, for a while, it seemed that nearly every mail sent from one of &quot;zope.com&quot; addresses was getting sent to spam on nearly _every_ gmail receiving account. So, somehow &lt;a href=&quot;http://zope.com&quot;&gt;zope.com&lt;/a&gt; was on some blacklist, etc. Many of the recipients didn&#039;t notice, until we tracked them down...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) I&#039;m fond of my domain. I know I can use my domain with Google, but IIUC, it costs money, and again, repeating point #1, that price might be reasonable today, but at some point, become less so, and it gets harder and harder to switch, etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still, some of the ideas are pretty cool, and worth investigating. If I have any meaningful results to report in the future, I&#039;ll post them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks again Gerry! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, this is cool too, thanks Gerry. I&#8217;m not jumping over just yet, but I&#8217;m going to think about it some, and possibly even throw in an experiment or two.</p>
<p>Conceptually, three things bother me about Gmail as my main email provider:</p>
<p>1) The (remote) possibility that I&#8217;ll be hostage to Google at some point in the future, in some (as yet) unknown way. I know this sounds paranoid, but it has to cost them a bloody fortune to provide this service, and the day may come when they literally _have_ to monetize it, or make it go away&#8230;</p>
<p>2) I am amazed at how many people in the above posting claim zero false positives. It might be true, but it seemed absurd to me. In fact, my bet is that they just don&#8217;t care about the &#8220;few&#8221; good mails that get tossed with the spam. For example, for a while, it seemed that nearly every mail sent from one of &#8220;zope.com&#8221; addresses was getting sent to spam on nearly _every_ gmail receiving account. So, somehow <a href="http://zope.com">zope.com</a> was on some blacklist, etc. Many of the recipients didn&#8217;t notice, until we tracked them down&#8230;</p>
<p>3) I&#8217;m fond of my domain. I know I can use my domain with Google, but IIUC, it costs money, and again, repeating point #1, that price might be reasonable today, but at some point, become less so, and it gets harder and harder to switch, etc.</p>
<p>Still, some of the ideas are pretty cool, and worth investigating. If I have any meaningful results to report in the future, I&#8217;ll post them.</p>
<p>Thanks again Gerry! <img src='http://www.opticality.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
		<link>http://www.opticality.com/blog/2007/03/02/spam-is-back-under-control/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 07:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got rid of virtually all spam into my main pop account with the help of Gmail.. see http://tinyurl.com/n4jby

Luckily my ISP allows forwarding of all mail to Gmail, and provides me with an alias account to receive the filtered mail. 

And Gmail archives everything, which has saved me on a couple of occasions..

Can&#039;t remember the last time any spam got through ;-)

Mvh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got rid of virtually all spam into my main pop account with the help of Gmail.. see <a href="http://tinyurl.com/n4jby" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/n4jby</a></p>
<p>Luckily my ISP allows forwarding of all mail to Gmail, and provides me with an alias account to receive the filtered mail. </p>
<p>And Gmail archives everything, which has saved me on a couple of occasions..</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t remember the last time any spam got through <img src='http://www.opticality.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mvh</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
		<link>http://www.opticality.com/blog/2007/03/02/spam-is-back-under-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7362</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 07:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got rid of virtually all spam into my main pop account with the help of Gmail.. see &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/n4jby&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/n4jby&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Luckily my ISP allows forwarding of all mail to Gmail, and provides me with an alias account to receive the filtered mail. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And Gmail archives everything, which has saved me on a couple of occasions..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can&#039;t remember the last time any spam got through ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mvh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got rid of virtually all spam into my main pop account with the help of Gmail.. see <a href="http://tinyurl.com/n4jby">http://tinyurl.com/n4jby</a></p>
<p>Luckily my ISP allows forwarding of all mail to Gmail, and provides me with an alias account to receive the filtered mail. </p>
<p>And Gmail archives everything, which has saved me on a couple of occasions..</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t remember the last time any spam got through <img src='http://www.opticality.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mvh</p>
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